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Post by roner on Oct 28, 2011 8:37:26 GMT -6
No person or entity shall be allowed to profit from another's sickness.
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Post by Car on Oct 29, 2011 8:55:23 GMT -6
That's awfully broad and unenforceable. So all private practice of medicine would be unconstitutional?
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Post by tomwaddell on Oct 29, 2011 16:22:37 GMT -6
Personally, I don't think we need to focus on any other issues. A ConCon is going to take a lot of dedicated work and we don't have unlimited resources, no matter how well our first week has gone.
I would vote to keep our goal as narrow and defined as possible. Once we take their corporate cash away, it'll be much easier to press our politicians on the many other issues that deserve attention.
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Post by silo on Oct 29, 2011 17:44:06 GMT -6
tomwaddell, I agree completely. There are so many issues which need to be addressed but with all the hard work necessary to achieve a convention, we'd be best to keep our sights fixed.
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Post by roner on Oct 30, 2011 4:44:43 GMT -6
I feel this is a very important issue for all people, but not directly the task at hand. That's why I put it as a thread for "Other Issues".
With the connectivity involved in creating one amendment, at the same time let's keep the momentum going forward and continuing to do what's right.
As far as this amendment is concerned, we should dismiss our preconceived notions of how healthcare & pharmaceuticals are currently presented to the public. Enforcement aside, it must first be clear that prevention of disease and treatment of fellow human beings for sickness is not the same as selling cars or microchips.
This is not an issue of doctors, nurses & staff salaries, or the finest medical equipment.
Just think about "profiting off someone else being sick".
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Post by rustyhoundog on Oct 31, 2011 22:11:59 GMT -6
I feel this is a very important issue for all people, but not directly the task at hand. That's why I put it as a thread for "Other Issues". With the connectivity involved in creating one amendment, at the same time let's keep the momentum going forward and continuing to do what's right. As far as this amendment is concerned, we should dismiss our preconceived notions of how healthcare & pharmaceuticals are currently presented to the public. Enforcement aside, it must first be clear that prevention of disease and treatment of fellow human beings for sickness is not the same as selling cars or microchips. This is not an issue of doctors, nurses & staff salaries, or the finest medical equipment. Just think about "profiting off someone else being sick". In `primitive' societies the healer must be free of the task of finding food for the group and shares in the results of group efforts to obtain food. Likewise, the healer is rewarded in some usually subtle way by those helped. We no longer recognize healers in our society but are constantly looking for cures. The personal has been lost in modern medicine. Producing cures at a price is the goal in modern medical enterprise. Naturally it follows that price involve profits, and we now have a society in which people are left to die when there is no money to pay for healing for what ails them. Success should be rewarded, failure should not be rewarded. However, that is not the path of modern medicine. Both failure and success reap the same rewards. The incentive to strive for success is missing from the business of medicine. Getting back to the personal, getting hundreds of times the number of health care providers, easing the burden off hospitals, and providing local and home care is the path toward healing, to say nothing about the absolute necessity of removing the tyranny of insurance corporations. Then there are the pharmaceutical corporate cartels crushing our use of medicines we evolved with over millions of years by using the pure food and drug acts as tools to destroy all alternatives. It always comes back to the uncontrolled evils of corporations. |
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Post by reddwarf2956 on Nov 10, 2011 17:00:32 GMT -6
Most people do not look at the word "life" like I do. Just look at the 14th Amendment and what does it say about "life" and due prosess of law. There has been justifiable reasons for prisons maintaining a prisoners health, but there has not been a justifiable reason for government to have health care for all. I think the word "life" in the 14th is the justification.
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